Clifford’s Comment:

Even though I posted some material about this subject on here awhile ago, I never was completely convinced that this stuff worked. A couple of months ago, I was in the U.S. watching TV in my hotel room, and I happened to see an infomercial which claimed to have their product endorsed in GQ Magazine. That was the first really surprising event, but I didn’t follow up on it.

But then Evolve, a member of the Montreal Lair, someone I know personally and who has no involvement or interests in any related business, posted on the Lair’s private board about his own personal experience. This was pretty surprising … I had never personally known anyone who said this had worked for them. And here was someone with no personal interest in having me or anyone buy any product or service. So here it is in his own words … something I never really expected to see.

Your comments would be greatly appreciated.


You have probably gotten the e-mails. Titles like …

Having an awesome friend in your pants is all you need in this life.

Transform from a grass snake to a python.


Men will see your power in every public shower.

They all try to entice you to buy penis pills, enlargement gadgets, or Viagra. The fact that there are so many different penis enlargement products out there shows that there is a market for these products. Someone has to be buying them and trying them on for size.

I had an average size. I am uncircumcised, and got compliments from most women I was with. The size was “just right” for most women, and I had never had a women I was with say it was too small. I never thought anything of the penis enlargement ads I had seen. At most, they were worth a chuckle. Bomb Her Womb With Your Man Cannon was almost laughable enough to check out the spam, however you certainly would hesitate at trusting your prized possession with mysterious pills or contraptions made of belts, rubber bands and plastic.

It was one year ago when I read a message on a PUA forum where someone had claimed they knew a community of men that studied PE, or Penis Enlargement. I followed the link to a site called Thunder’s Place, and moments later was reading through a list of simple exercises that one could do to increase the size of their penis. The dedicated members had been at this for years, and many had achieved impressive results. They had been growing in length and girth, some of them several inches. Most of their exercises were all natural, and involved only the use of hands, persistence and a lot of porn. I suspended my disbelief in the hope of improving my size and sexual performance, and started the exercises.

The exercises I followed were found here and here, and posted to Cliff’s List in Noooooo, you’re not supposed to listen to me…” (10/13/08)

For the first month I was doing the exercises once, twice or three times a week, when I had free time. I would warm up (to avoid injury), perform basic stretches, then a series of “jelqs,” which are masturbatory motions to increase size. After that, a long series of kegels. Then a warm down with a hot pad. Each time I exercised, it took 30 minutes to an hour.

Within the first month, I was seeing gains in length based on measurements. I slowed down my exercises to once a week in the second month. By the end of the second month, I was nearing one inch in additional length. By the end of the third, I had reached that goal of an extra inch. I was now in a new bracket of size. I felt great.

Over the last year, I have only done exercises maybe once or twice a month. The gains have been completely permanent. Each exercise adds to the growth. I am now at one and a half inches in growth since beginning one year ago. I only invested about 15-20 hours over the course of a year, and was very satisfied with the results.

Some people experience gains with little effort, and others struggle to make any gains at all. The community has all kinds of information and experiences on a wide variety of penis types, exercises, safety and equipment. From what I have read, the only thing that separates the men from the big gains in PE is the same thing that separates men from success in pick up arts: persistence.

The gains I have made have been in length and also in girth. As I grew in size, my sexual performance was enhanced. I had longer erections, harder erections, and improved ejaculatory control. The compliments I got from women changed, too. “Just right” became “the perfect cock,” and “large cock” became “huge cock.” I became a pussy slayer. The added size makes big difference in pleasure for myself and the women I am with.

If you find yourself masturbating regularly, you should shift over and try this out. It will improve your size, your game, and your relationships. I think the spam says it best …

To the stars your manhood flies when you are happy with your size.


I have been fortunate enough to have been able to present a lot of great material in the cliff’s list newsletters and now on the website that have made a significant difference in many guy’s lives.

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